Get an Inside Look at How Two Senior Therapists Use RLT in Their Couples Therapy Sessions
Join Desirae Ysasi and Julie Rudiger from the RLT Faculty as they individually work LIVE with two couples over two days. Witness in real-time how they use RLT to expertly guide couples back into connection.
Thursday & Friday, November 13–14, 2025, from 10AM to 5PM ET
Have You Ever Wondered if You Could Achieve the Same Results With RLT as Terry Real?
Senior RLT therapists, Desirae Ysasi and Julie Rudiger are opening the doors to their RLT couples therapy sessions. You’ll get a real-time, inside look at how they each apply RLT to their own techniques and style – and how you can do it, too.
Watch each therapist work with one of our couples over multiple sessions to guide them toward deeper connection and lasting change. (You’ll see four couples therapy sessions in total.)
Perhaps you’ve seen Terry’s powerful one-shot interventions before, and now you get to see how two highly experienced therapists apply RLT to their own styles of therapy. Then, once their sessions are over, they’ll each offer observations and insights as a rare, behind-the-scenes collaboration – and you’ll have the opportunity to ask your questions, too.
You’ll leave having witnessed transformations that previously might have seemed impossible. And, as a result of the Q&A, you’ll understand how it was able to happen, which will help you strengthen your own work with couples.
Whether you’re a seasoned couples therapist or new to RLT, don’t miss this unique opportunity to get an inside look at other therapists’ sessions to bring fresh perspectives to your own work.
The 8 Diagnostic Lenses of Relational Life Therapy
At the heart of RLT Level 1 is a structured approach to what we call waking up the client – helping them recognize the real role they play in their relational dynamic. To do that effectively, you’ll learn to assess each couple through 8 specific diagnostic lenses that bring clarity to even the most complex relationships.
Observation
Observe Desirae and Julie work in-depth with one couple each. One therapist will lead the morning session with the first couple, followed by a 30-minute break, and then the other will take the afternoon session with the second couple. There will be four therapy sessions in total (two per day).
During this portion of the workshop, you will remain on mute and not participate in the sessions.
Q&A
Each day concludes with a 60-minute Q&A with Desirae and Julie to discuss what happened in each session.
This is where you can share your observations and ask them questions. They will be completely candid in disclosing the RLT tools they used and explaining why they took certain stances.
❗12 Continuing Ed Credit Hours are available for an additional $40 if you attend the two days LIVE and in full. Learn more →
Relational Life Institute (RLI) has been approved by NBCC as an Approved Continuing Education Provider, ACEP No. 7495. Programs that do not qualify for NBCC credit are clearly identified. Relational Life Institute (RLI) is solely responsible for all aspects of the programs.
What You’ll Learn
In this immersive two-day workshop, you will watch two senior RLT therapists interact and intervene LIVE with two couples (working with one each) to bring a fresh perspective to your own work. You will:
- Observe how two experienced therapists apply Terry Real’s Relational Life Therapy model to their own therapeutic style.
- Discover diagnostic tools that help you swiftly get to the root of the problem in relationships which you can use in your own work.
- Learn how to lovingly confront clients with the truth about how their behavior harms their relationship and how they can change it.
- Witness how healing relational trauma in the presence of the partner enhances intimacy and builds empathy between couples.
- Understand how to engage each partner in the therapeutic process: how to find leverage and establish a trust.
Join Us for the Couples Intensive
Choose between a single payment or payment plan to register.
2 x Monthly Payments
$159.00
One-Time Payment
$300.00
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We’re confident you’ll love the Couples Intensive. However, if you’re not 100 percent satisfied with your purchase, simply contact us at support@terryreal.com by 12pm ET on November 13 and we’ll give you a full refund, no questions asked.
Did you know...
This course is part of the RLT Certification program
Who Is This For?
Therapists, counselors, and psychologists
Social workers
Relationship and life coaches
Please Note!
This training is not suitable for non-mental health professionals. This is a learning and development workshop designed for clinicians working with couples. If you are an individual or couple looking for help with your own relationship, we recommend Terry’s powerful online course for improving relationships, The Art of Relational Living.
What Your Colleagues Have to Say About Training With Desirae & Julie
Meet Your Teachers
Desirae Ysasi and Julie Rudiger are senior members of the RLI faculty, responsible for training professionals worldwide in Relational Life Therapy.
Desirae Ysasi, LPC-S
Private Practice, San Antonio, TX
Desirae Ysasi is a Licensed Professional Counselor – Supervisor with nearly two decades of experience, specializing in relationship counseling. Serving the San Antonio community since 2006, she works exclusively with couples in romantic relationships, folks in non-traditional romantic relationship structures (ethical nonmonogamy), and adults seeking to improve family dynamics.
Desirae became a Certified Relational Life Therapist in 2018 trained directly by Terry Real, the founder of Relational Life Therapy (RLT). She joined the faculty of the Relational Life Institute in 2022 and now serves as Director of Training & Certification, overseeing the global certification program.
She has been the owner of Ysasi Counseling since 2014 and in the fall of 2024, Desirae opened Relational Life Texas, a virtual therapy group practice focused on RLT, providing relationship therapy
across Texas.
Julie Rudiger, LCSW
Private Practice, Denver, Co area
Julie Rudiger has been a Licensed Clinical Social Worker for the last 30 years. In 2002, Julie opened her private practice, where
she has helped hundreds of individuals and couples over the last two decades. Her professional journey took a transformative turn in 2008 when she began training with Terry Real, the founder of Relational Life Therapy (RLT).
Julie has since used RLT to guide clients in discovering self-esteem, healing early wounds, and fostering deeper, more authentic relationships. A faculty member at the Relational Life Institute since 2022, Julie now trains other therapists and leads community workshops, including Men’s Groups and Relationship Skills Bootcamps. Additionally, she is trained in EMDR, ACT, DBT, Gestalt, and the Enneagram.
Frequently Asked Questions
When is the Couples Intensive?
The Couples Intensive takes place on Thursday & Friday, November 13–14, 2025, from 10am to 5pm ET both days.
How much does it cost to attend as an observer?
The price for two days of observation is $300 per person if paid in full. You also have the option of a payment plan: two monthly payments of $159.
Will the workshop be recorded?
Yes – all sessions and the Q&As will be recorded and stored in the RLT Hub (which you will receive login details for when you register). You can watch the sessions back as many times as you like to fully absorb the learnings. However, we recommend attending both days live to get the most from the experience (and qualify for CE credits).
Is the workshop eligible for Continuing Education credits (CEs)?
12 Continuing Ed Credit Hours are available to therapists who attend live for an additional $40 fee. Please be aware this purchase is separate from your registration fee and will be offered only after the event. Find more information here.
Do observers participate in the couples work and feedback?
No, you will be muted during the couples sessions and group feedback. This will help you get the most out of your observation. You will be able to discuss the sessions at length and ask questions during the dedicated Q&A.
Is the Couples Intensive part of the RLT Certification?
Yes – when you enroll in the RLT Certification (our deepest, richest couples therapy training), you unlock unlimited access to all Couples Intensives for the duration of your studies. Find more information on the RLT Certification here.
What is Relational Life Therapy?
Relational Life Therapy (RLT) combines the most effective techniques from multiple therapies to create a state-of-the-art, integrated method to powerfully heal relationships. RLT breaks many of the rules of traditional therapy to go deep quickly and help clients make rapid and significant changes.
Using a range of powerful diagnostic and transformative tools, RLT helps people to first reconnect to themselves—their feelings, needs, and desires—to build a stronger, more intimate connection with their partner.